PPR for RB's?

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Re: PPR for RB's?

Postby 420allstars on Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:01 am

sfitch2003 wrote:dude larry johnson is pretty much done.and you have westbrook. it would on average just give the running back 1.5 extra pionts. it helps guys like reggie bush and westbrook who are more like recievers and dont get credit. But dont pick up many rushing yards.

That was sarcasm about Larry Johnson. No it doesn't it help guys like bush and westbrook do anything but become overvalued and diminishes the value of all the wideouts and tight ends in the league. We return to a system where one position is overpowered much like other fantasy leagues where stud running backs mean everything. This system changes everything and makes the running backs the only commodity to own. Westbrook does just fine in our scoring system when he suits up btw.
The way our system is set up now. You can have a stud player at any position even tight end or defense which is awesome. So please don't ruin it.
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Re: PPR for RB's?

Postby braven112 on Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:43 pm

420allstars wrote:
sfitch2003 wrote:dude larry johnson is pretty much done.and you have westbrook. it would on average just give the running back 1.5 extra pionts. it helps guys like reggie bush and westbrook who are more like recievers and dont get credit. But dont pick up many rushing yards.

That was sarcasm about Larry Johnson. No it doesn't it help guys like bush and westbrook do anything but become overvalued and diminishes the value of all the wideouts and tight ends in the league. We return to a system where one position is overpowered much like other fantasy leagues where stud running backs mean everything. This system changes everything and makes the running backs the only commodity to own. Westbrook does just fine in our scoring system when he suits up btw.
The way our system is set up now. You can have a stud player at any position even tight end or defense which is awesome. So please don't ruin it.



I share your concern and love that you can build your team around any position but I think we're starting to lose that with RB's. I setup the the scoring with that concern in mind but with the evolution of the NFL (2 backs per team and more hybrid's WR/RB like Bush) I think we need to evolve with them. Check out the scoring of another league I'm in that is 1PPR for all positions

http://football22.myfantasyleague.com/2 ... nts&TEAM=*

I can tell you that RB's are not overvalued at all, in fact check out the start up dynasty draft of another league with the same scoring system as above

http://football22.myfantasyleague.com/2 ... 13679&O=17

The guys in both of those leagues are comprised of either staff members of fantasy football sites or extremely active and knowledgeable football guys. First 3 picks were WR!! Point being I don't think any change that has been proposed so far would ruin anything or cause RB's to be overvalued though your point is well taken.
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Re: PPR for RB's?

Postby braven112 on Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:47 pm

I went through everyone's posts again to get a better feel for a consensus and their really isn't one prevailing plan so I'm going to put together a non-binding vote on what plan(s) everyone likes the then we'll put it up to a official league wide vote.
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Re: PPR for RB's?

Postby Minnesota Road Kill on Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:55 am

braven112 wrote:
Minnesota Road Kill wrote:Personally I think its a must... A player should get credit for what he does on the field (exception being Punt and Kick returns) and at the same time WR should get rushing yards for a carry they get here and there. Take Percy Harvin as the example here. He's prolly gonna get as many pass catches as he does rushing carries. I guess the way things are set up he's only getting credit for half his production? That would really suck...

But as always, I'm fine the way things are and this is just my opinion.


No I think you may be misunderstanding. Percy Harvin gets credit for everything he does, rushing, passing, if he kicks a field goal he gets the points, the question here is simply for Point per "receptions" not points for yards, everyone gets credit for yards but currently TE's get 1 PPR and WR's get .5 PPR

So the question is more if we did this how would we award the points for receptions?

1.5 for TE's, 1 for WR's and .5 RB's

or

1 for TE's, .5 for WR's and .25 or RB's



Got ya... Not really sure we need to give points for receptions if they already get credit for the yards they get on a reception. Don't get me wrong I'd love it cause I have Ray Rice and on most days he has as many yards relieving as he does rushing and to give him points for simply catching the ball he will go to a whole new level in this league. Now I haven't looked at RB rankings in a while but I would guess Rice is in the top 10 and adding PPR would make him top 3 easy.

But again you won't hear me complain either way. I'm sure everyone can adapt either way so its really a non-issue.
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Re: PPR for RB's?

Postby braven112 on Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:30 pm

Its really not that drastic of a change, here is another league I play in where RB's get .25 per reception

http://football13.myfantasyleague.com/2 ... nts&TEAM=*

Here is another league were all players get 1 PPR

http://football22.myfantasyleague.com/2 ... E=ADVANCED

In my experience it adds more depth the player pool more than anything, the 3rd down back type guys specifically

Ray Rice isn't top ten in either of these scoring systems above, FWIW.

I personally have no one on my team that would benefit from RB PPR but I have no problem adjusting either since it has been such a minor change in my experience, it just seems to add more quality players to the waiver wire and may help some of the lesser teams or teams going through injury problems and/or bye week fill-ins.
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Re: PPR for RB's?

Postby shiftyjoe on Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:57 pm

In my league I give .5 points per reception for RB's. It was a big hit for my owners.
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Re: PPR for RB's?

Postby Minnesota Road Kill on Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:14 pm

braven112 wrote:Its really not that drastic of a change, here is another league I play in where RB's get .25 per reception

http://football13.myfantasyleague.com/2 ... nts&TEAM=*

Here is another league were all players get 1 PPR

http://football22.myfantasyleague.com/2 ... E=ADVANCED

In my experience it adds more depth the player pool more than anything, the 3rd down back type guys specifically

Ray Rice isn't top ten in either of these scoring systems above, FWIW.

I personally have no one on my team that would benefit from RB PPR but I have no problem adjusting either since it has been such a minor change in my experience, it just seems to add more quality players to the waiver wire and may help some of the lesser teams or teams going through injury problems and/or bye week fill-ins.




I was talking about top for Just RB's and before we give him reception points he's currently 4th among RB's in this league. But like I said I'm fine either way especially when its a change that benefits me.
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